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Chad vs Jason 
30th-Jul-2014 10:57 pm
chad/jason
Yesterday’s post had me thinking about those 2 ‘other’ men in Kevin’s life.

While my love for Scotty is as unconditionally as Kevin's is, and there's no one who could ever convince that anyone would be better for Kevin... I have to admit that Kevin has a good taste when it comes to men. Both Chad and Jason are good-looking, sexy and smart in their own way.

Yet, if anyone would force me to make a choice between Chad and Jason, my choice would be with Chad. Why? Well, first of all, I didn't like Jason as a character. I think I loved him most in 2.11, perhaps also because it allowed Eric to show his  comedic side a little more. The awkward way in which his meeting with Kevin goes and how Scotty drops in etc. always has me laughing (as I explained yesterday), but also he could show his more vulnerable side.

The scene at the dinner-table must be in my top 3 of best scenes ever in B&S (along with 'The proposal' and 'You ruined our marriage'-scenes). I think that the reason why I still like Jason is because of how Eric delivered the line "I missed you too much (and the rest of it)...." There was enough pain in there to show that Jason wasn't completely heartless when it came to Kevin, but I still agree with Kevin. Worst excuse I've ever heard.

I absolutely LOVE Chad. I don't know what it is about him, but I can’t really dislike him. What Chad and Jason have in common is that I liked neither of them at the start. I found both of them arrogant and too self-assured. (kinda what Kevin pretended to be as well)

Yet, for some reason, I feel that Chad loved Kevin more than Jason did. I guess, a lot has to do with the fact that we saw Kevin/Chad grow  over several episodes, while Kevin/Jason started in 1.23 and ended in 2.01. What happened between K/J we never saw, we only have a few lines for it to prove it ever existed. (Besides, I hated that it 'forced' Kevin to end up in church, faking interest and the scene of him praying felt  'off' to me as well, because never saw Kevin pray before or after again.)

Furthermore, we saw Chad actively trying to 'get' Kevin, whereas with Jason,... well,  I could never see Jason as that interested in the person that Kevin was. Maybe more in the person he believed he could change Kevin in to. I think I don't 'get' what could have worked well between Kevin/Jason - aside from cat-fights and hot make-up sex, now THAT I can imagine.  ;)

Also, Chad was better written than Jason. In 1.19 “Game night” Jason was obnoxiously arrogant. It got toned down in 1.23 when for some inexplicable reason an argument ended in face-sucking/wrestling-match in the pantry. Alright, I do get it, logically, I know, that all the preparations for the engagement-party are supposed to have brought Kevin/Jason closer yada, yada, yada, but it all moved a bit too fast for my taste. I wasn’t entirely convinced yet. I needed something ‘more’.

Then came 2.01.

Summer-loving happened so fast… Met a guy cute as be …. Summer days drifting away, to oh oh those summer nights..

No seriously, I CAN somehow see Kevin/Jason having HOT summer nights, because both guys are good–looking and, well… hot as hell! (sorry, reverend McCallister), but I can’t take their ‘love’ so serious. And then, it all comes to a screeching halt, because Jason has to go to Malaysia….

Summer dreams ripped at the seams, but those oh summer nights…

Seriously, they should write a song about “Summerlovin”, make it something cheerful, with a bit of 50s vibe to it… ;) (Hey, not my fault, Jason himself wanted to know which of them was supposed to be Sandy. )

Anyway, after Jason’s entire song and dance how Kevin cannot commit to anyone, Kevin promises to wait for Jason, tells him he loves him…  and Jason leaves to never, ever, ever, get in touch with Kevin… Mhmm. Ripped at the seams alright. I know, Jason was badly written, even at his most arrogant, in 1.19, he never struck me as someone cruel and what he did to Kevin was just that. Cruel.

I also believe that Chad worked better for me, because he had a certain vulnerability about him, that I felt was lacking in Jason, until 2.11 when he said that he was afraid of missing Kevin too much. By the time, he dared to tell say what he felt, it was too late for me. He had blown it. (with me anyway)

Chad on the other hand wasn't perfect either. At first he was mostly in love with himself, but when Kevin didn't come crawling back to him after he broke up with Kevin at the end of 'Valentine's day massacre', he was the one who tried to win Kevin back. That scene at the restaurant when Kevin gives him that book certainly displayed, for me, that he was interested in Kevin, although perhaps he's still too superficial and too interested in himself too. Chad certainly changed, as a character, which I felt never happened to Jason.

Anyhow, that is how I feel....

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Comments 
31st-Jul-2014 04:24 am (UTC)
I guess I hadn't seriously contemplated the characters much before now. I didn't really like either choice. I couldn't stand Chad's season. All those scenes with Kevin tucked up under the sheets post coital, were SOOO un-sexy to me.

As for the way he treated Kevin, I get that he was in the closet. Many men are. But he didn't seem to have compassion or regret. Not until they broke things off anyway. His only saving grace was the ep when Kevin is back with Scotty and he suggests a 3-some. I'd never laughed so hard! For that alone, I was happy that he was cast as one of Kevin's exes. Jason? Not a good fit for Kevin, but very handsome. And the whole debacle with soft shell crab night was a good story line. Two great exes, but not boyfriend material - the pair of them....

Edited at 2014-07-31 04:27 am (UTC)
31st-Jul-2014 07:56 am (UTC)
*** Two great exes, but not boyfriend material - the pair of them.... ***

Yes, that about sums it up for me too. :D I still like both men, in their own way, but never, ever again as a boyfriend for Kevin.
31st-Jul-2014 11:34 am (UTC)
Strangely enough, I must admit I liked the break-up scene between Kevin and Chad. Both actors did a really good job in it. It's very sad and sweet also, the way they both realise it's the end and then there is still that lingering attraction.
31st-Jul-2014 02:42 pm (UTC)
I agree. Perhaps that is the reason why I like Chad more and why I continue to have this feeling that there some residual feelings left between them.

I think he truly cared about Kevin, even if it wasn't "Love with a capital L".
1st-Aug-2014 12:08 am (UTC)
pphhht! It wasn't Love with a lower case "L" either.

It was LUST in all upper case. From my perception anyway.... :)
1st-Aug-2014 08:48 am (UTC)
I guess, 'lust' can sometimes be a good start... ;)
2nd-Aug-2014 04:26 pm (UTC)
My problem with Chad and Jason is that I never really felt as if they were real. When I watched their relationship with Kevin I always fet that they were actors playing a role and that Matthew had to do all the work in order to make the scenes belivable.

This is something that it happens a lot in US TV series, it's very difficult to find that the storylines, characters and actors are real. I feel that European and Spanish series are way more realistic than US TV series.

That is what to draw me totally to Kevin and Scotty. I had seen some scenes of B&S because my boyfriend watched the show, but it was the scene with Kevin and Scotty in episode 3 after the cinema scene when Scotty asked Kevin for a date, that made me fall in love with them at first sight. They were so realistic. It was amazing.

And then I watched with more attention all the show and I found the Walkers very realistic too: Nora, Justin, Tommy, Sarah... all were like real people. Maybe it's because they are actors with theatre training and not models made actors, or I don't know why but B&S always seems more like an European show than an American to me. And Matthew and Luke are amazing actors, maybe that's why people still confuse Scotty with Luke and Matthew with Kevin :)

Edited at 2014-08-02 06:38 pm (UTC)
2nd-Aug-2014 09:02 pm (UTC)
**** When I watched their relationship with Kevin I always fet that they were actors playing a role and that Matthew had to do all the work in order to make the scenes belivable. ***

I think I know what you mean. I had that very strongly with Rachel/Gilles.

I'll be the first to say that Luke was, acting-wise, a great sparring-partner for Matthew. He could hold a scene on his own and I'm sure that made things a lot easier for Matthew as well.

I have to say that it bothered me less with Jason Lewis/Eric Winter than it did with Gilles Marini.

I guess I hadn't expected much from Jason Lewis to begin with. ;) I knew he was hired for his looks and not his acting capacities. And I also think that Matthew was very well aware of that.

What I liked about Jason L however was that he was willing to play the character of Chad (it was apparently difficult to get a lover for Kevin) and didn't mind to have kissing scene either, even though he had never done it before. Furthermore, I felt that Chad was purposely somewhat superficial because Jason L. wouldn't be able to put more dept to the character. That is perhaps also why the break up scene surprised me so, because it was well-acted by both Matthew and Jason. (Maybe Jason got a few good tips from Matthew?) Jason L. truly seemed to enjoy working on B&S.

As for Eric Winter. I have no proof of this, but I think he never really liked to play a gay character. I think he would have preferred to explore the drama of how Jason deals with his religion side vs being gay, more than the focus on the more intimate aspects of a relationship between Kevin/Jason, if that makes any sense?

He's not a bad actor. He managed to put just enough drama in Jason to make me somehow like Jason again. I thought he was a good brother to Robert, but I've always had the feeling that he was VERY happy to not have any more physical scenes with Matthew.



2nd-Aug-2014 09:46 pm (UTC)
Yes, I agree with all you've said.

Gilles was way worse than Jason and Eric. lol! It's not that Jason and Eric are horrible actors, they know how to deliver their lines and all but they don't have a realistic acting way, not like the rest of the cast. Even when Jason was with Robert I didn't feel like when the Walkers were together. Nora really seemed like the mother of the Walkers, and the siblings really seemed like siblings, it was incredible. And well Ron Rifkin is a really brilliant actor. I suppose that apart of being a great cast, they all get along very well in real life, because they really seem like they were a family who love each other.

It was the same with Joe, Scotty and Tyler, they had a perfect dinamic relationship with the Walkers and it felt very realistic. The original cast was the best of all the seasons. Joe relationship with Sarah was my second favorite because they had amazing chemistry as a couple and their problems were very real. To have Sarah ending with Gilles it was kind of insulting for Rachel. I felt sorry for her.

I agree that the last scene with Chad and Kevin was the best and I prefered Chad than Jason too. It's surprising but Jason Lewis also did the typical interview saying he was scared to kiss a man. Sigh! It always amazes me how they could think that we will believe something like that. lol: http://blogs.dailynews.com/outinhollywood/2007/01/15/jason-lewsi-says-gay-kiss-scar/ I suppose that Baitz didn't let him to complain about something like this and maybe even added more kissing scenes to piss him off. LOL!

I agree that Eric Winter seemed more scared than Jason Lewis, but it was a feeling... In general, he didn't seem to like to play this role or to be in B&S. I remember reading that Matthew asked the writers to make Kevin settle down with Scotty. I suppose he was a little tired of doing all the work in Kevin's scenes with the random boyfriends :)

I miss the Walkers. I think tomorrow I will start a B&S marathon starting from season 1, long time withouth watching the show :)
2nd-Aug-2014 10:27 pm (UTC)
*** It's surprising but Jason Lewis also did the typical interview saying he was scared to kiss a man. Sigh! It always amazes me how they could think that we will believe something like that. lol: ***

I remember that attack on Jason Lewis by The Backlot (as it is called now). In all honesty, I used to love that site, but I'm lately I dislike their 'witch-hunt' of nitpicking on one actor while sucking up to another. I have no intention to let my good mood get spoilt by those drama-queens anymore. I still read the news on The Backlot, because they do bring me articles I want to read. But I stay away from the comment-section, if possible, because that place has become too vicious for my taste.

Fortunately, I do however remember this part too: (maybe because it was about Jason Lewis)
"Jason Lewis once said having to kiss Matthew Rhys on Brothers & Sisters "scared him," something which I took him to task for saying. My thinking on this has actually changed and I feel bad about jumping on Lewis. Do I wish more straight actors were like McGregor who thinks nothing of snogging a bloke? Sure, I do. But the fact of the matter is that it’s mostly a straight world and most straight guys never really think about kissing another guy. And when they do, it not surprisingly causes some of them some trepidation. But what really matters is that those who do feel some discomfort not let that keep them from doing their job. It would annoy me to hear that an actor actually passed on a job because it involved kissing a dude, something we used to hear a lot more ten years ago.....And look what a great ally Jason Lewis has turned out to be for the GLBT community. "

It was written by Michael Jensen, who unfortunately no longer writes for them. http://www.thebacklot.com/best-gay-week-ever-the-politics-of-same-sex-kissing/06/2010/
3rd-Aug-2014 06:41 am (UTC)
The problem for me is that I don't believe they're scared. They are not farmers who live in a little village in the mountains. They're actors in Hollywood. I'm sure that doing a peck on the lips to a man is the most vanilla thing they ever have done. My friends male and female, gay and straight, great each other with a chaste kiss on the lips, and a Hollywood actor never have done that? Not even in training classes? Please, it's really difficult to believe.

I think it's only a way to make clear they're not gays and not loss jobs in the future. I really don't mind. It's okay for me, everybody wants to work and god knows that I have lied in my job a lot of times too. But when they said something like that, it makes me stop believing in their SL. I think it's not a professional thing to do. Imagine if they have to kiss a character that is a disabled girl, or an ugly girl and they said that they were scared to kiss her. It will destroy the SL for everyone. So, it's the same for me. I think it's not professional to say something like that. But of course it's not a big deal. They can say whatever they want. But I can say too when I don't believe them :D

Edited at 2014-08-03 06:44 am (UTC)
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