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Oh, no, not him again. 
22nd-Sep-2013 08:38 pm
marea67
Why do I even listen? Urgh, did I really need another reason to dislike Marini? Nope! Yet, he provides me with one, once again. I read some comment on AfterElton (Yes, I know, it has another name now) and went searching for it because I know that AE has it's own way of interpreting things, but I found the supposed comment Marini made on www.bethenny.com.

The first question asked of him was: "Would you ever lie to the press to help a famous gay friend stay in the closet?"

I appreciate his attempt to be modern in stating that it's 'uncool' to be the closet (was it ever 'cool' to be in the closet? It's been called a lot of things, but 'cool/uncool'????), and good fo him, that he was a witness during a same-sex wedding and I agree that it's most likely better to be who you need to be, however I still think it's not HIS decision to out anyone and/or discuss their sexual orientation with others, especially members of the press.

Now I'm even more happy that he only started ruining acting in B&S since season 4, so Luke Macfarlane could come out on his own terms and not because Marini couldn't keep his trap shut.

I recently watched Wentworth Miller's speech for the Human Rights Campaign about how much trouble he had had to accept himself and how he struggled about coming out, (I wonder in how far it cost him his supposed relationship with Luke Macfarlane.) and I'm glad that he didn't have someone like Marini thinking his internal fight is 'uncool' and go yanking him out of the closet by discussing with the press what another actor is not ready to discuss with anyone just yet.

Nope, again he didn't score many points with me.

Just my opinion, though.
Comments 
22nd-Sep-2013 09:08 pm (UTC)
""I appreciate his attempt to be modern in stating that it's 'uncool' to be the closet (was it ever 'cool' to be in the closet? It's been called a lot of things, but 'cool/uncool'????)""
LOL! That's so funny :D Only Marini could say it's "uncool" something like this :)

I used to search for Marini's interviews because I loved to hate him, he always said the wrong thing! lol! Long time without reading anything from him but this is funny.

Awww, about Luke, but don't worry Marini is also a patological liar, I'm sure that being in the business he has lied many times about closeted actors, he sure know a lot of them :) On this case, I was really more mad with Richard Chamberlain when he said that it was silly for a young actor to come out. He said that when he was in B&S and I'm sure that Luke didn't appreciate that putting in risk his career by doing something so brave and being so honest and compasionate could be defined as silly for someone who waited to come out until he was 70 years old. I wonder if there was a lot of tension in set after Chamberlain said something so stupid and painful.

Edited at 2013-09-22 09:09 pm (UTC)
26th-Sep-2013 07:46 pm (UTC)
I think Chamberlain is indeed very bitter, but he HAS wasted too many years of his life being in the closet. I think that Luke most likely didn't care much. A lot of others, like Ron Rifkin, Sally Field, Rachel Griffiths, Dave Annable and Matthew of course, were so proud of him.
22nd-Sep-2013 11:53 pm (UTC)
I don't tend to dislike him as much as the majority seems to. He's ok. As for the comment, I have two thoughts. One - he is not American or English, so he's at a disadvantage in finding the perfect words to express himself. Maybe what he said, isn't precisely what he meant. Two - that was an unfair question and really bad position to put him or anyone in. It's rather a damned if you do, damned if you don't type of a question. You either reveal yourself as a disloyal SOB or a liar - neither option a pleasant one. Aside from refusing to answer the question, there was no way to answer this gracefully.
26th-Sep-2013 07:54 pm (UTC)
The word 'cool' is thrown around a lot in non-English speaking countries, I guess. It was my stop-word for a while as well. :)
And I do agree with Marini, that in 2013 it SHOULD not be a shame anymore to be gay, but ... a lot people still feel that way, and discussing their private lives with members of the press (especially if the actor is not out) is just 'not done'. In general, it's unwise to discuss other actor's sexuality with the press, which was more the thing that bugged me.
27th-Sep-2013 12:24 am (UTC)
I didn't think he had done that, but ABSOLUTELY! No one else's concern, no matter what side of the fence you are on the issue....
23rd-Sep-2013 04:54 pm (UTC)
I totally forgot about this guy! If he hadn't been in B&S, I still would ignore his existence. :|

I can understand where he comes from because this whole concept of in and out is practically inexistent in France. The few celebrities that did come out about their sexual orientation did not receive praise or congrats from the rest. The reaction to such announcement would rather be a shrug, a so what, or annoyance at someone for sharing something considered private.

Actually, most gay celebs that come to mind didn't make a huge deal out of it. It's out in the open like straight people are out in the open. Weird, right? Cultural differences, I guess.

However, I am absolutely against outing. Mind your own business and let people decide what they want to share about their personal life on their own terms. Thank you very much :)
26th-Sep-2013 07:57 pm (UTC)
We, Dutch, have so many gay actors, show-hosts, newsreader etc, that we don't care much about it either. Yes, in general the reaction is 'good for him/her' and we move on with out lives.
But confirming to the press that someone is gay (thereby outing him/her) is a totally different thing and should not be done. That should indeed be up to person in question.
Glad we agree! :D
23rd-Sep-2013 08:23 pm (UTC)
He makes it so hard to stay out of jail... I do remember this vh1 ricky martin special and when he says that if someone came out at the age of 15 "they were so lucky"... given the many decades it took him to do so (i am not even commenting on wenworth miller (spelling?) anyway... I didn't need that headache from my eyes rolling to the back of my head. I really cannot get this guy, he really feels so special? and now he thinks he has the right to dictate what is cool and what is not?... well, I dictate that being a talentless, full-of-himself so-called actor who cannot even speak the language properly is uncool. how about that?
26th-Sep-2013 08:00 pm (UTC)
well, I dictate that being a talentless, full-of-himself so-called actor who cannot even speak the language properly is uncool.
I don't think he'd 'get' it. :D
24th-Sep-2013 09:16 am (UTC)
I am just going to ignore the whole Marini thing - okay no, I need to say something about that too.
My take is, that his words are a mix of using the wrong words and a too big ego. (I know, I use the wrong words a lot too...)

What I really wanted to comment on was Wentworth Miller's speech. I did not know about it, therefor I hadn't seen it before. But, Wow, was I moved. It happens rarely, but kudos to Mr Miller and his bravery to talk about his innermost fears. That was really intense... so, thank you for sharing that link and I hope, that he can find happiness and someone who loves him, the way he needs to be loved.

Have a nice day
26th-Sep-2013 08:23 pm (UTC)
Well, because Miller was linked to Macfarlane for a while, I followed his Imdb board for a while after he came out a few weeks ago (oh the bags of popcorn I ate during the 'cat-fights' between 'fans'!)

When I saw the video I was moved by him as well. His pain felt so real. Seeing him talk about his struggle to come out and then hearing Marini flippantly say that he would out someone who's gay, but still in the closet, just ticked me off.

I read that Dominic Purcell, Wentworth's co-star in "Prison Break" got quite some negative remarks from fans because he kept the secret, but I think it was a wise decision, just like Matthew didn't talk about Luke either. (Though I wonder what he would have answered if someone had asked him the question.)
24th-Sep-2013 08:36 pm (UTC)
Je n'ai pas vraiment d'opinion concernant Monsieur MARINI. En tant que personnage de B&S il ne m'était pas particulièrement antipathique, mais j'ai toujours trouvé que son personnage était beaucoup trop stéréotypé et pas du tout représentatif de ce que sont les français. En tant que personne, je ne le connais pas suffisamment pour pouvoir juger.
En ce qui me concerne, je pense que personne ne devrait avoir à faire de coming out (qui on aime et avec qui on couche ne regarde que soi et être célèbre ne devrait pas vous obliger à l'étaler devant tout le monde). Chacun devrait pouvoir vivre comme il l'entend, sans avoir à rendre de comptes. En tout cas, ce n'est pas aux autres de le faire à votre place.
Personnellement, ce n'est qu'il y a deux ans que mon cousin a osé enfin annoncer à toute notre famille qu'il vivait avec un homme (après cinq ans de vie commune !); Nous sommes une famille catholique et il avait peur d'être rejeté. Cela n'a pas été le cas bien au contraire (en plus tout le monde s'en doutait) et il triste de pensé à toutes les années qu'il a passées dans le placard, pour rien. Et encore plus triste de pensé que certains n'oseront jamais en sortir.
26th-Sep-2013 08:32 pm (UTC)
... mais j'ai toujours trouvé que son personnage était beaucoup trop stéréotypé et pas du tout représentatif de ce que sont les français.

You think?! :D I think it's one of the things that I dislike so much about Luc.

Et encore plus triste de pensé que certains n'oseront jamais en sortir.

I feel so sad for all those who never were who they should have been.

Personnellement, ce n'est qu'il y a deux ans que mon cousin a osé enfin annoncer à toute notre famille qu'il vivait avec un homme (après cinq ans de vie commune !);

I didn't know it about my cousin either, until I met him again, two years ago, for my mom's cremation. My aunt (not his mom) told me that he's gay. Now, whenever I read something pro or anti-gay, I think of him and wonder 'What if it would happen to him?'.
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