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So,... I watched 'Virgin Territory' again.... 
27th-Jun-2012 11:52 pm
kevin season 5

... Ouch! What a terrible movie. I thought that a few years ago, when I saw it the first time, I was just not in the right mindset for this movie, but I watched it again last night, because I wanted to make some screen-caps of Matthew, who plays the count, but.... I don't know what it is, but the movie just doesn't 'get' to me.

So, there's 'love' in the air, though it would seem to be more about lust, but filmed in a weird way. At moments the movie is stiffly Victorian when it comes to sex. At other times I feel like 'A little less (mostly female) nakedness, puh-lease." I

t would seem like Pampinea and Lorenzo are supposed to be 'the Grand Love Couple' of the show, but ... they leave me as cold as Rose/Jack did in Titanic. There's something so pushy and 'over-the-top' in the display of 'Oh, look! The L.O.V.E.-couple!' that it's annoying.

I'm not sure if it's the fault of the actors. I cannot remember them from other parts they have played, but I've seen Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet play other characters and I enjoyed them more than I ever did Jack/Rose.

And considering that millions went "Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww." over Jack/Rose and cried a billion and two tears over them, I can only assume that it's something about that couple that just annoys ME and not necessarily someone else, I suppose it IS my fault.....

And... I don't understand women in movies and/or television.... I'm sorry, but ... Pampinea gets to choose between:

Lorenzo (Hayden Christinsen) and Count Dzerzhinsky (Matthew Rhys)

Full name of Count: Dmitri Vyacheslav Alexsandrovich Dzerzhinsky, first son (and also the ONLY son, 9 sisters - which probably explains the clothes!)

And then she choses Lorenzo?!?!?! Is she blind or something? ... (Although.... Why am I thinking 'sandwich' when I'm not even hungry? )

I had that same *FACEPALM!* feeling when I watched The mystery of Edwin Drood, where that terrible Rosa Bud turned down John Jasper (Hey! Suprise! Also played by Matthew Rhys!) Alright, I admit, John Jasper was a tad bit dark, creepy, pushy and obsessive... and granted an opium-addiction is perhaps not much fun either, but seriously.... If I had to chose between John and Edwin, Edwin would be out on his a** in two seconds and John in rehab, so he'd be clean by the time he'd marry me!....

But, I lose this thread, so let's get back to the only purpose of actually sitting through "Virgin Territory": Matthew Rhys.

I don't think that anyone will be even remotely shocked and/or surprised that I enjoyed watching him work. I just loved his scenes with Tim Roth (playing Gerbino de la Ratta - another 'good' aspect of the movie). It helps, I suppose, that I like the 'poodle-hair' that the guys at After Elton hated so much.

Matthew shows his range of acting skills very well. From his ability to hang on to an accent to the way that he handles the Count's emotions from pride to anger to love/lust to vengeance. I loved the sword-fight between him and Tim Roth and I felt that Matthew and Tim were a good match acting-wise, where Tim absolutely wiped Hayden off the table (acting-wise) in their one-on-one scenes.

I think that I would have enjoyed the movie more had it only been about Pampinea/Lorenzo/The Count/De La Ratta.

And here are some screen-caps:

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27th-Jun-2012 11:21 pm (UTC)
Ok, as I have no intention of EVER seeing this film again, I appreciate the screen caps even more so, since I never would have gotten them myself.

As for the choice for Pampinea, well duh....the count was definitely the better choice!! I don't have anything against Hayden Christensen, but this particular role I felt was circling the drain where personal character is concerned. Lorenzo was a handsome enough bloke but beyond a superficial glance, the Count was definitely prince charming in this one.

As for Count Dzerzhinsky's style choices, I've never been a fan of the gigantic hair, but the reason I like Matthew (or the characters he plays) has nothing to do with the hair styles...

Thanks for the pix!
28th-Jun-2012 07:24 am (UTC)
You're welcome. It is indeed a very bad movie. Not by fault of the actors, I think. They did the best they could. I can see how it COULD have been a great comedy, but somehow it just does NOT appeal to me. I guess it is indeed the 'lack of chemistry' or something.
28th-Jun-2012 05:58 am (UTC)
For me, the only thing worth watching this was Matthew Rhys and Tim Roth. Honestly, I saw the movie twice. The first time I laughed my way through it, because it was so bad, and the second time I wanted to make sure it was really the movie and not me not getting it.

Pampinea and Lorenzo had no chemistry (imho), but then again, I haven't seen Mischa Barton in anything I liked.

And you are right, Matthew showed a lot of his skills and he seemed to enjoy himself. He stole some scenes from the others. :)

(i personally would have chosen the count nd I love the hair :) I loved it even more in love and other disasters)
28th-Jun-2012 07:31 am (UTC)
Without wishing to be nasty about the other actors or anything, but indeed the only thing standing out in this so-called movie is Matthew and Tim.
I can see how everyone had a lot of fun making this movie and I guess it helped that it was filmed in Tuscany and that the name of Dino Delaurentiis was attached to it, and I CAN see the potential, but somehow it just hits the wrong note more often than the right note.

Oh, well, at least Matthew was good. HE didn't fail to deliver. :)
28th-Jun-2012 07:45 pm (UTC)
So it's a bad film - we can all pretty much agree with that statement and a bit too much nudity for no reason.

Matthew Rhys is one of the reasons I've kept the film though originally I didn't buy it for him but for Mischa Barton.

Mischa is known mostly for The O.C but I started to watch her in her early years and her role in Paranoid (bought because Jessica Alba) caught my eye so I started to buy other films she - this was not one of her best films. I think I prefer her in smaller roles - Notting Hill, St.Trinian's or even the Sixth Sense.

I'm not the biggest fan of the large hair look on Matthew Rhys but at least when you're watching one of his movies you know that you're going to get at least one good actor.

As for Titanic - it's a long movie - I love it but I might have been more interested in the disaster and what happened and why (hence my career choice) than the love story
28th-Jun-2012 09:25 pm (UTC)
As for Titanic - it's a long movie - I love it but I might have been more interested in the disaster and what happened and why (hence my career choice) than the love story

Oh, I agree, it's beautifully filmed, but the film for me only starts when the ship starts to sink and I am more engaged in how people get off the ship and those who got left behind, than in the love-story, mainly because Jack/Rose don't touch anything in me.
2nd-Jul-2012 11:54 pm (UTC)
I never much cared for Jack/Rose or Titanic either! :/ As for Virgin Territory, I actually really like some parts (even a few without Matthew!), but whenever I watch the movie it takes me 15 min from start to finish...most is pretty awful. It's too bad because if done right, it could've been good. I really enjoyed Matthew's role here though.
2nd-Jul-2012 11:56 pm (UTC)
We should set up a 'never cared much for Jack/Rose on Titanic'-club. :)

I agree with you on VT. It COULD have been so much more. There were some good ideas, but somehow.... I just don't like it.
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